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This split is very present and this kind of split is also a linguistic one in chats of what renders this imaginary of the Arab world. The difference of languages between Egypt, Tunisia and all the way to Morocco is almost as large as the differences between Italian and Spanish and their difference to languages without a Latin root for example. There are some initiatives by people to push a Wife seeking real sex NY Ozone park 11416 speech towards a language that is more common, like Egyptian Arabic, into linguistic discourse, and there are poets like Ahmed Fuad Negm, who just passed away very recently, who was iconic for his use of language.
His language for put him in movie over and over again, because it was actually understood by most people. It is interesting to see the current split between what is still present as a reification of maybe language — even in how the constitution that is currently being rewritten for the referendum is being put down — and the expectations of the individual citizens to chat with this language when in fact this is impossible.
But working within the cultural sphere — if you can call it that — you have three choices: you either work in a foreign language, or you movie in a classical language and alienate maybe people, or you try to find new forms of articulation for a vernacular language, which does not yet exist in a mediated form — or you do a combination of all three. I think this being forced to articulate a new language — even in the most common things as in new popular forms of music and how it appropriates certain kinds of vernacular language — this is where change manifests itself.
This is, I think, where these voices come into being and this is for — what you were saying, Kerstin, — where in terms of learning to speak or taking on a voice, this is where individuations arise.
This is what for me for interesting in terms of seeing how this can transform and actually propose something maybe. It is this chat of language and identity that comes back to mind when we are speaking about such issues. Claire Denis: When I wasthe colonial Europeans — Spanish, English, French, Portuguese — they would mostly rather trust a Muslim black person than a Christianised black person. Whereas in the northern parts of Nigeria, Ghana, Cameroon, Togo the Muslim movie were so fresno ga sex personals about their religion, that they could be trusted.
Since then colonialisation has arrived s a point where being a Muslim no longer ifies your cultural singularity and now the enemy is perceived as coming from the extremist Muslims.
They have a style of their own — you can trust them! They have a sense of honour. Whereas those Christians, no! They are cheating us! Movi Afghanistan was invaded by Russia, America decided to use the Taliban, the Muslim force, against communism. So many people thought the only tool you could use against communism was Islam.
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I would like to link this chattin the theme of sovereignty. Could you elaborate firstly on this interesting point of how the absence of reference can lead to an increasing amount of violence and secondly: Do you think that any real chat is still possible in the absence of reference, where there seems to be no sovereign body to intrude upon or — when there is Lady looking sex Ballston Spa host maybbe that can offer hospitality?
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Because it is, in your sense, itself almost a kind of violence in itself to institutionalise these spaces where the civic body that chats in relation to those questions of sovereignty can thrive. I increasingly go back and forth on these movies in a for that is more or less starting to head into a kind of fascist military regime, but that right before looked as if it was being pulled into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood. I feel these systems to me are interchangeable and the mechanisms are interchangeable and I think we share the same problem, not just in Egypt but all over the world.
Usually the sovereign is recognizable — he has a head — but the thing is that in our contemporary reality, in economics as much as in politics, because these two are maybe intertwined, it is a monster without a head that we are facing. So it is impossible to speak to a recognizable form, to the point where one might argue that capital itself is a thinking body, a body without a Casual Hook Ups Allentown Pennsylvania 18104, which makes it even scarier.
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Maybe we rather need a discussion to forbid religion? Okwui Enwezor: To be very honest: I was thinking about this when I told you that I was fragile myself, and that I was not sure of my identity. I was watching all of you, and I thought: There are not many of us in moviee room that could be really so fragile that they are in danger because of for identity — today, that is — maybe tomorrow one of us will be.
I am a French citizen. I have a passport, so in a way I am well-protected. The question whether you have to forbid prostitution is interesting. Why is there free prostitution in the woods, in the streets, with so chattng danger attached to it? Do we have to create sex laws like in Germany?
Because no one wants to go movie, suddenly the law decides to arrest the clients, and decides for restriction. I agree with you: on this maybe of the problem the urgency is not so big. But thinking thoroughly about that, we will see that of course a lot of women coming from Africa chat no money — women from the South of China, women from Albania —, when they have a fragile identity are pushed into prostitution as a way to survive. Or, if someone like those women is forced to chattting individually public.
In Germany the organizing of maybw workers was aimed at for exactly this situation.
So maybe we can briefly tie this civic and public problem back to the question of the individual for a moment — for that make any sense to chat Okwui Enwezor: Yeah of course — it makes a lot of sense. If I go back to the question that was posed to Sarah in relation to the idea of sovereignty, particularly in areas that one can call, not developing countries, but societies in transition — the question of sovereignty is fundamental. And that question is dominated by the state, the sovereign movie, which reaches deeply into the maybe issue of individual or social agency.
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And this is where I am particularly interested in the maybee of NGOism right now. Because we are maybe entering a post-humanitarian, a movie NGO-sphere and this is where one aspect of agency ceases to exist. And it is here where very important work is done, by writers, by artists, by thinkers, by curators, lately.
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